The Ayatollah Santorum

March 2, 2012 at 11:49 am | Posted in Atheism, elections, hypocrisy, Religion, Republicans | Leave a comment
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Crazy christians seek dominion over politics, business and culture

October 5, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Posted in Beliefs, government, insanity, political campaigns, Religion, sick & Twisted | 3 Comments
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Terry Gross of NPR’s Fresh Air must be the world’s most patient person.  I could not have interviewed this (I can’t even find the right adjective) person and maintained my cool.  I don’t know how she managed for forty-five minutes.  Though I believe C. Peter Wagner is completely off his rocker, listening to him and those like him scare the hell out of me.

Courtesy of C. Peter Wagner C. Peter Wagner, pictured with his wife, Doris, is one of the leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation.

A new charismatic Christian movement that seeks to take dominion over politics, business and culture in preparation for the end times and Jesus’ return is becoming more of a presence in American politics. The leaders are considered apostles and prophets, gifted by God for this role. Several apostles affiliated with the movement helped organize or spoke at Rick Perry’s August prayer rally, The Response.

Among the topics discussed on Monday’s show are: Wagner’s explanation about a recent video that has been shown on television in which he claims the emperor of Japan had sex with the sun goddess, a power of darkness headed by the kingdom of Satan, and how that resulted in the decline of the Japanese stock market; how demons figure into the belief structure of NAR; the role of prophets and apostles within NAR; what Wagner means when he describes the NAR’s mission as taking dominion over business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, family and religion; how he felt when he found out that Ted Haggard, his World Prayer Center co-founder, had used drugs and had sex with men; spiritual mapping; and the role of Jews and Israel in preparing for the second coming.

You can  read the interview highlights here, or click the link below to listen.  Even if you don’t listen to the entire interview (I couldn’t) I would suggest listening to some of it, because hearing the guy gives you a much better sense of who he is than simply reading his words.

To listen to the entire interview click

A few of my own favorites:

On people in American politics being possessed by demons

“We don’t like to use the word possessed because that means they don’t have any power of their own. We like to use the word afflicted or, technical term, demonized. But there are people who — yes, who are — who are directly affected by demons, not only in politics, but also in the arts, in the media and religion in the Christian church.”

On demon identification

“Sometimes they know. Sometimes the demon has identified itself to the person. Sometimes you can tell by manifestations of superhuman, unhuman behavior. Sometimes you can tell by skilled deliverance ministers. My wife has a five-page questionnaire that she has people fill out before she ministers to them. So she asks the kind of questions that a medical doctor would ask to find out, to diagnose an illness. So she actually does diagnostic work on people to discover not only if they have demons, but what those demons might be.”

On whether other religions and nonbelieving Christians are demonic

“Well, it means they’re not part of the kingdom of heaven. It means they’re part of the kingdom of darkness. An apostle, a friend of mine in Nepal, once told me that every Christian believer in Nepal that he knows of has been delivered from demons. That their former Hindu religion had implanted, or the demons had gained access, and that in order to become Christian believers, the demons had to be cast out. Of course, we have many examples in the Bible of the same thing.”

On spiritual mapping to cast demons out of cities

“When you talk about demons over cities, we’re talking about what — sometimes what we refer to as territorial spirits, and they’re more high-ranking spirits in the hierarchy of darkness and they’re more powerful and they require different approaches, and it’s not as easy as commanding them to leave in the name of Jesus. So sometimes there has to be repentance, sometimes there has to be — there has been bloodshed in that city that needs to be repented of, there has been idolatry in the city that has ruined the land. There’s been immorality that needs to be repented of, and there are several social things that people really need to acknowledge that they’re bad and repent of them and ask forgiveness. … There are certain individuals in our whole movement that have special gifts for doing that, and they’re helping lead the way in weakening the power of the spirits. We don’t believe we can kill demons and sometimes we don’t believe we can completely get ’em out, get ’em away from a city, but we can reduce their power. We can bind them, and then we can move strongly with the kingdom of God into the city.”

On Thomas Muthee praying over Sarah Palin at the Wasilla Assembly of God, and asking for Jesus to protect her from the spirit of witchcraft

“What Thomas was probably doing, and he and I are friends also, what he was probably doing was speculating that there would be some people who practiced witchcraft and other forms of the occult who would try and take Sarah Palin down through certain rituals or curses or other techniques that witches have and try to destroy her through those things. And I think Thomas was praying a shield of protection around Sarah so that she would not be affected by them.”

Is Obama a Muslim?

August 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Posted in Atheism, Beliefs, god, government, insanity, Jesus, Obama, political rants, Religion, Republicans, stupidity | 8 Comments
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So what if he is, who cares?  No one should know or care what the religion of the president or any other elected official is.  That is, or should be, a private matter.  Church and state are supposed to be separated so the religion of anyone serving the state is irrelevant.

During the campaign his opposition made a great big damn deal out of Obama’s CHRISTIAN minister who made statements, of his own free will, which were somehow Obama’s fault.  And you think he is a Muslim because?  Do you think the church he attended is a Mosque in disguise?  Or is it that you don’t freaking THINK?  Not a day goes by that I don’t hear someone accusing Obama of being a Muslim.  Yeah I get that the accusers are stupid, but here is what irks me even more.  The denials coming from his supporters, who should be saying what I started out with: so what.  It reminds me of a video clip I saw, during the race for the oval office; a woman said to McCain that Obama was an Arab, to which McCain replied, “No, he’s not he is a good family man.”  Does this mean an Arab cannot be a good family man?  This is of course a rhetorical question because we’re talking about McCain here who has the brains of a crayon (I don’t know why I said crayon, it was the first thing that jumped into my head).

We have freedom of religion in this country on paper but in real life, where the idiots live, we have freedom of religion as long as you happen to be a christian (yep, I didn’t capitalize it, it was deliberate).  If you are anything but christian you are not part of the mainstream.  If you are a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, or any number of religions that are NOT christian you are an outsider.  As a kid you are an outsider in public schools where they give time off for christian holidays, recite the NEW and improved version of the pledge of allegiance;  now fortified with god for the health of your soul.  Other public functions that should be separated by church and state start with some sort of prayer, benediction, or reference to god.

Oh, I almost forgot, one of my favorites is when I find myself in a conversation with someone I barely know or just met and they begin talking about jesus (again not capitalized on purpose) or church, or the lord, in a way that assumes I am on board with this crap. When this happens I want to gouge the eyes out of their heads and cut out their tongues, but until eye-gouging and tongue-ectomies are legalized, I just stand there and let my eyes glaze over while I imagine how much fun it would be.

Christianity (capitalized here only because it starts the sentence, but written with an equal amount of disdain) is being forced down our collective throats more and more and I am getting REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, tired of it.  I’m not telling you not to be christians, but could you please keep it to yourselves; the rest of us aren’t interested and if we ever are we know where to go to sign up.  Like convenience stores and Starbucks, there are churches on every corner.

People, I’m talking to you, christians.  Obama probably is not a Muslim, as if it is any of your business.  He was in fact born in the USA and who the hell do you all think you are demanding to see his birth certificate?  I’m going to go out on a limb here because I don’t know this for a fact, but I’m guessing that to be eligible for the job of president you have to, at some point during the process, produce a birth certificate, and that Obama’s was in fact shown to the proper parties, so give it a rest.  I bet you respond to that by asserting the birth certificate is a fake and it is all a conspiracy, by the Islamic religion, to take over our nation.  Oh, if it were only that easy to quash christianity.

During the Obama v McCain run for office no one questioned McCain’s citizenship even though he was born in Panama.  And do you know why?  Because the progressives and the liberals are a bit smarter than you guys and have a whole lot more common sense.  If it had been Obama who was born in Panama, THEN it would have been an issue.  As I am writing this, another possibility occurs to me.  Some of the birthers probably don’t know Hawaii is a state.  The reason I say this is because I live in Arizona and, in the course of my work, I have talked with people from every part of the U.S. and you would be amazed (or maybe you wouldn’t) at the number of people who don’t know that Arizona and New Mexico are states.

This country is in trouble.  The economy is imploding, people are without jobs, food, homes, and hope.  Our infrastructure is crumbling.  The political climate in this country is becoming ever more and more divided and the political climate of the world is unstable at best and your biggest worry is how or to whom the President worships?  Are you guys really that dumb?  Do you really believe all that bullshit or are you just grasping at straws because we have a black president and that is your worst nightmare?  Even if he is Muslim, that’s not going to get him thrown out of office so, nice try.

People, you need to smarten up, so here is a suggestion.  Take a big heavy book, if you own one, if not a brick will do.  OK now give your head a real hard smack with it and hopefully that will get some blood flowing to your rapidly atrophying brains.

Candidate Heffington and Honjii go at it!

August 3, 2010 at 11:31 pm | Posted in Atheism, Beliefs, creationism, evolution, god, Jesus, Religion | 9 Comments
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Here is a follow up on the post about Joan Heffington, candidate for governor of Kansas.  When I noticed, Contact Joan Heffington, on her website I couldn’t resist having a little fun.  I sent the following email, and I was surprised to get a personal response.  I just figured she would be so busy with hoards tens of supporters I would get only a canned response or nothing at all.  Below is my email, her response, and my response to her response, and her final response after having lost the primary.  Though I disagree with everything she stands for, I have to hand it to her for taking the time to engage in discourse with someone so diametrically opposed to her.

your run for governor
From: “Honjii” <>
Date:    Mon, Aug 02, 2010 5:38 pm

Your site looks like you are campaigning to become a church elder rather than a state governor.  Yes, you will appeal to the very religious fundamentalist Christians, but you are missing the big picture.  You may believe this is a Christian nation but that is an uninformed and ignorant belief.  Perhaps the people of your state are naive enough to go along with someone like you, but to use religion to gain office is disgusting.  Could it be that you have nothing else to offer your state?  Christianity and its beliefs and teachings should be taught in religious schools and have no place in schools funded with money from taxpayers, many of whom are not Christian.

How would you like it if you or your children attended a school that forced you to study Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Shintoism or any religion that might not be your own?  How would you like it if your tax dollars went to fund public schools that required students to study a religion not their own?  I am getting so tired of Christians like yourself who are so arrogant as to believe or refuse to acknowledge that anyone could possibly hold beliefs different from their own.

If there were a god I would thank him or her that I do not have the misfortune of living in your state.

Honjii Li

Subject:Re: your run for governor
Date:    Mon, Aug 02, 2010 9:16 pm


Thank-you for contacting me with your concerns.  Perhaps you are not aware that Christianity is not a religion.  It is a lifestyle choice, just like atheists, gays, etc.. I would like Christianity to be taught in schools, because I know if I had known what it meant growing up, I wouldn’t have made half the mistakes I’ve made.  Children should know that believing in Jesus is the only way to heaven and that living your life to please God instead of yourself will get you there.  This will give them hope, especially if they have no directions, broken family, etc. and can reduce suicides among our young people.  Kids also need to understand what the fear of God means, and realize that he blesses us in so many ways if we will follow His will and not ours (much of which is written in the Bible). This is also the way to heaven when we die some day.   I think there should be a required class called “CREATE.”  This stands for “Christianity, Religion, Evolution, Atheism, The End.”  This class would teach about all the different belief systems and how they relate to the end of a person’s life, so that young people can make an informed choice about which path they want to follow in life.

Yes, Kansas is in the heart of the Bible belt, and when they say that 86% of American’s consider themselves Christian, there are a lot of people here who go along with this “lifestyle choice.”  But there are more important reasons why I decided to run for governor when I have never aspired to be a politician.  Allow me to send you our quarterly newsletter for the Association for Honest Attorneys.  I think you will see what I mean…

Best regards,

Joan Farr Heffington
Candidate for Kansas Governor
Derby, Kansas 67037
Ph: 316.788.0901
Fx: 316.788.7990

“The answer to world peace is to eliminate arrogance.”

your run for governor
From: “Honjii” <>
Date:    Tue, Aug 03, 2010 3:08 pm

In a sense Christianity or living a Christian lifestyle is not a religion.  However, your use of bible quotes, your plans to require bible study in schools, and the use of crosses (on your website), a religious symbol, are in fact religion.  You say Children should know that believing in Jesus is the only way to heaven and that living your life to please God instead of yourself will get you there. Are you actually denying this is religion?  Belief in God, Jesus, and heaven is religion and while you are free to believe whatever you choose, you have no right to impose your religious beliefs on anyone, especially taxpayers who support the schools and your state.

You talk about requiring the teaching of Christianity, Religion, Evolution, Atheism, and The End and how each belief system relates to the end of life.  Based on your statement that children need to know that belief in Jesus is the only way to heaven (the existence of which is also a religious belief) I doubt very much this CREATE class would in any way shape or form be fair and unbiased.  Since you are unaware you should know that being gay is not a lifestyle choice and is not in the same class with religious, or lack thereof, belief systems. Homosexuality is no more a choice than your race, eye color, hair color, etc.

I posted excerpts from your website on my blog.  One person who commented states: “your objectives demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge about federal versus state government functions and spheres of power. Secondarily, she must be planning on significant tax hikes to fund such lofty plans.”

How do you respond to your lack of knowledge about the way government functions and how are you going fund your plans?  That you are so uninformed and ignorant on these and other topics, if you truly care about your state the responsible thing to do would be to get out of the race.


Subject:Re: your run for governor
Date:   Tue, Aug 03, 2010 10:34 pm

I believe there is all kinds of money hiding in our legal system, which is why I want to overhaul it.  Not only would our state get out of debt, we could adjust remaining revenues so that $$ get down to the classroom level where it is needed. But you don’t have to worry – all of this is never going to happen.  Senator Brownback has won the primary and Kansas will continue with “business as usual.”  As this place is too corrupt for me, I am making plans to move soon.  If you’re lucky, I just might move to your state!

Joan Farr Heffington

Uh Oh – Another one on the loose

August 2, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Posted in Atheism, Beliefs, creationism, elections, god, government, intelligent design, political campaigns, Religion | 5 Comments
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Joan Heffington is running for governor of Kansas.  Check out the O in her last name.  Her website contains a bible quote and I’m really glad I don’t live in Kansas (or Tennessee).  It seems she didn’t get the memo about separation of church and sate, has plans to abolish it, is so holy she sees no reason for it, or is just another religious wing nut.  Here are some of her campaign promises, however in front of each point she uses a cross instead of a bullet point:


* Sign into law only those bills that have 2/3 approval of the people
* Require that a Biblical and Constitutional reason exist for the passage of any new laws
* Allow teaching of Christianity vs. evolution in schools
* Introduce a “No Child Left Alone” Act so that working parents can adjust their start/stop times to take their children to and from school (families first!)
* Stop fraud and corruption by overhauling our legal system, electing all judges and creating citizen review boards
* Review all complaints against judges, courts, police, schools, etc. & ensure settlement without litigation
* Introduce a justice amendment offering effective assistance of counsel in a civil matter to those who can’t afford it
* Review jail population for false/frivolous charges; if found, charges will be expunged & person released
* Repeal the War Powers Act so that Congress and the people must vote on decisions to go to war
* Support FAIR tax/eliminate property tax for persons 65 & older
* Review all bankruptcy/foreclosures and if fraud is discovered, mortgage is forgiven

Obama’s Inaugural Oath – It’s Still Wrong

January 27, 2009 at 3:08 am | Posted in elections, Obama, president, Religion | 1 Comment
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What Chief Justice Roberts and Obama actually said:
Roberts: “Are you prepared to take the oath, Senator?”

Obama: “I am”

Roberts: “I, Barack Hussein Obama,”
Obama: “I, Barack,”
Roberts: “do solemnly swear”
Obama: “I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear”
Roberts: “that I will execute the office of president to the United States faithfully…”
Obama: “that I will execute…”
Roberts: “faithfully execute the office of president of the United States…”
Obama: “the office of president of the United States faithfully…”
Roberts: “and will, to the best of my ability,…
Obama: “and will, to the best of my ability,…
Roberts: “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,…”
Obama: “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,…”
Roberts: “so help you God?”
Obama: “so help me God.”
Full-text of What Obama Actually Said:
“I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I will execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God”

From Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution:
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Notice anything?  The version of the oath in the constitution doesn’t contain the words, “so help me God”.  It also allows the president to swear or affirm and there is no mention of requiring that a bible be used.  It seems our forefathers were serious about separation of church and state, and that they refer to an oath or affirmation is a good indication that religion, the bible, or god was not a necessary part of the oath, or the person taking it.

Since the oath was administered a second time, just to be on the safe side, because a couple of words got switched, I’m thinking it should be administered yet a third time, and this time exactly as worded in the constitution.

The Obama, Warren Controversy – A Different Perspective

December 20, 2008 at 5:43 am | Posted in Atheism, Obama, political rants, Religion | 4 Comments
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I’m glad Obama won the election.  I was so thrilled when the returns came in I cried, and I don’t think I could have wiped the smile from my face the next day had I tried.  It felt as if we had, at long last, been liberated from our oppressors.  I think Obama is intelligent, level headed, and his little finger is far more capable than McCain’s whole body, to assume the Presidency.  I am also elated that we will finally have a President who is not a middle aged white man.  That being said, when the primaries first got underway Obama was not my first choice.

Now there is a new controversy brewing because Obama has chosen Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration.  Geeze, could we go a freakin’ week in this country without getting our collective panties in a bunch?  Pastor Warren is an anti-gay pro-lifer.  So what?  He is still a member of the clergy which adds a religious element to an integral part of a  major governmental proceeding.  That’s the part that bothers me, and if people are going to be bitching and moaning I think that is the part they ought to bitch and moan about.  Religion has no place in government, period!

To stray from the path a bit, I have to say I’m surprised and disappointed in Obama’s stance on gay marriage.  I don’t know if he is really against it, or he is/was smart enough to know that supporting gay marriage would have severely hindered his chances of getting elected.  He of all people should be keenly aware of the implications of his position.  There was a time in this country when it would have been illegal for his parents to marry because they were of different races.  I hate to think of him as a man who takes the position, hey I got mine now you just try and get yours.

Same sex marriage has no direct personal effect on any of our lives.  The Christian right has always tried to dictate what others may or may not do.  It’s about time they stuck to their beliefs, to which they have a right (however misguided and perverted they may be), and shut the hell up about the rights of those who don’t subscribe to the same belief system.  As far as I’m concerned, anyone who is of legal age and sound mind should be able to marry any person or persons they so choose,  (that’s right, I’m including group or plural marriage).

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