Jesus or No Jesus?

February 20, 2007 at 12:31 pm | Posted in Atheism, Beliefs, Religion | 12 Comments

I’ve always wondered if the story of Jesus was based on a real person or if Jesus was purely a fictional character.  I saw a documentary, “The God Who Wasn’t There”, that helped answer my questions.

“In this provocative, critically acclaimed documentary, you will discover:

  • *The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus
  • *The Jesus of the Gospels bears a striking resemblance to other ancient heroes and the figureheads of pagan savior cults
  • *Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion
  • *Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes
  • *And God simply isn’t there”




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  1. I also have been wondering about this very notion of late…. I wonder if we didn’t get duped bigtime. Thanks for stopping by my blog and commenting earlier.

  2. Congrats on your efforts to get to the truth behind the fog. Yes it is very difficult to be a Christian as his memory or rather the memory of the person that serves as ‘Jesus’ is lost in time.

    What has come down on us is nothing but an edited and falsified narration. And of course those Christian ‘fundamentalists’ that distort the distorted even further have with the truth behind the fog as much in common as those Islamic ‘fundamentalists’.

    Here’s one piece of the truth: we all have on Mother and one Father and we will die if we are not taken care of immidiately…

  3. Hm… I guess the people who did that documentary should have read the Bible…

    The book of Acts tells the story of Jesus’ disciples after His death.
    … about all that Jesus began to do and teach, until the day when He was taken up to heaven, after He had by the Holy Spirit given orders to the apostles who He had chosen.
    Acts 1:1b-2

    In the beginning of Acts, the first book after the four Gospels, the first verse mentions Jesus and the second verse discribes His asention into heaven. I believe the disciples really did know about who they suffered and died for.

    Jesus was a real person, and He really did have followers. The major question is, “Was He really God?”
    The Bible is reliable, we just need to determine if Jesus really did rise from the dead.

  4. I agree with Brian.
    If you want to check this out even further read Lee Strobel’s book ‘The Case For Christ’
    He was an atheist journalist trying to disprove the ‘myth’ of Christianity – ended up becoming a Christian.

  5. Or you could check out Josh McDowel’s book “More than a Carpenter” or “Evidence that Demands a Verdict.”

    More than a Carpenter is a short quick read.
    Evidence that Demands a Verdict is a longer book, but inclueds a lot more evidence, illustrations, etc.

  6. Brian,
    I’m sorry…just because the bible says something doesn’t mean it’s true.

    I appreciate all the suggested reading, however, I don’t really have the time or desire to read anything more about religion than I already have.
    And yes, many former Christians are not atheists, many former atheists are now Christians, former Christians are now Jews, or Muslims…doesn’t mean a thing. Many former women are now men, and former men are now women… and your point is?

    Belief in god and the bible are based on faith that it is true. Some don’t take it as literally as you do, some believe it is metaphoric. I believe it’s a great, extremely imaginative work of fiction.

    On atheism….
    “The moment you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why we go one god further.”

  7. I have read “Case for Christ” and it made me believe even less in Jesus. So what is your point?

  8. I’m not saying that just because the Bible says something is true makes it true.

    Those books (and my article) have a great amount of evidences for the validity of the Bible. They analyze logic, evidences, ancient fragments, comparisons to history, and a great deal of other similar things.

    And just to let you know, when Josh McDowel set out to write Evidence that Demands a Verdict, he was a hardcore Athiest and he intended fo the book to discredit Christianity. But as he gathered evidence, he was converted to Christianity and the book transformed to what it is, a book for Christianity.

  9. jesus fucking christ!
    who cares if jesus was a real person or not. what is important is how you live your life today. now.
    are you good to yourself and your neighbors?
    do you help others? do you cherish all beings?
    have you stopped judging and being intolerant?
    do you accept and love your fellow black, white, yellow, red, gay, lesbian, retarded, intelligent, jewish, muslim, old, young, democratic, republican people?

  10. without a framework of belief, Angelica (true or false) why should anyone stick to your ideals or anyone else’s – who’s authority am i gonna follow; yours – not a chance.
    If what you say is true, then you should definitely not think I am “bad” for raping you sister or murdering your dad. Why should i conform to your rules.
    Why don’t I just do what i feel is best for me.

    There are no ultimate rules and I make my own thanks.

  11. *Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion —

    they are profoundly ignorant because they are too busy arguing and crucifying one another –

    over which one them Jesus and God loves the most.

    stupid bastards!

  12. arguing and crucifying one another –
    over which one them Jesus and God loves the most

    Well, Vickie, at least it keeps them off the streets.

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