Tags: C. Peter Wagner, Christianity, insanity, New Apostolic Reformation, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, separation of church and state, Terry Gross, Thomas Muthee
Terry Gross of NPR’s Fresh Air must be the world’s most patient person. I could not have interviewed this (I can’t even find the right adjective) person and maintained my cool. I don’t know how she managed for forty-five minutes. Though I believe C. Peter Wagner is completely off his rocker, listening to him and those like him scare the hell out of me.
A new charismatic Christian movement that seeks to take dominion over politics, business and culture in preparation for the end times and Jesus’ return is becoming more of a presence in American politics. The leaders are considered apostles and prophets, gifted by God for this role. Several apostles affiliated with the movement helped organize or spoke at Rick Perry’s August prayer rally, The Response.
Among the topics discussed on Monday’s show are: Wagner’s explanation about a recent video that has been shown on television in which he claims the emperor of Japan had sex with the sun goddess, a power of darkness headed by the kingdom of Satan, and how that resulted in the decline of the Japanese stock market; how demons figure into the belief structure of NAR; the role of prophets and apostles within NAR; what Wagner means when he describes the NAR’s mission as taking dominion over business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, family and religion; how he felt when he found out that Ted Haggard, hisco-founder, had used drugs and had sex with men; spiritual mapping; and the role of Jews and Israel in preparing for the second coming.
You can read the interview highlights here, or click the link below to listen. Even if you don’t listen to the entire interview (I couldn’t) I would suggest listening to some of it, because hearing the guy gives you a much better sense of who he is than simply reading his words.
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A few of my own favorites:
On people in American politics being possessed by demons
“We don’t like to use the word possessed because that means they don’t have any power of their own. We like to use the word afflicted or, technical term, demonized. But there are people who — yes, who are — who are directly affected by demons, not only in politics, but also in the arts, in the media and religion in the Christian church.”
On demon identification
“Sometimes they know. Sometimes the demon has identified itself to the person. Sometimes you can tell by manifestations of superhuman, unhuman behavior. Sometimes you can tell by skilled deliverance ministers. My wife has a five-page questionnaire that she has people fill out before she ministers to them. So she asks the kind of questions that a medical doctor would ask to find out, to diagnose an illness. So she actually does diagnostic work on people to discover not only if they have demons, but what those demons might be.”
On whether other religions and nonbelieving Christians are demonic
“Well, it means they’re not part of the kingdom of heaven. It means they’re part of the kingdom of darkness. An apostle, a friend of mine in Nepal, once told me that every Christian believer in Nepal that he knows of has been delivered from demons. That their former Hindu religion had implanted, or the demons had gained access, and that in order to become Christian believers, the demons had to be cast out. Of course, we have many examples in the Bible of the same thing.”
On spiritual mapping to cast demons out of cities
“When you talk about demons over cities, we’re talking about what — sometimes what we refer to as territorial spirits, and they’re more high-ranking spirits in the hierarchy of darkness and they’re more powerful and they require different approaches, and it’s not as easy as commanding them to leave in the name of Jesus. So sometimes there has to be repentance, sometimes there has to be — there has been bloodshed in that city that needs to be repented of, there has been idolatry in the city that has ruined the land. There’s been immorality that needs to be repented of, and there are several social things that people really need to acknowledge that they’re bad and repent of them and ask forgiveness. … There are certain individuals in our whole movement that have special gifts for doing that, and they’re helping lead the way in weakening the power of the spirits. We don’t believe we can kill demons and sometimes we don’t believe we can completely get ‘em out, get ‘em away from a city, but we can reduce their power. We can bind them, and then we can move strongly with the kingdom of God into the city.”
On Thomas Muthee praying over Sarah Palin at the Wasilla Assembly of God, and asking for Jesus to protect her from the spirit of witchcraft
“What Thomas was probably doing, and he and I are friends also, what he was probably doing was speculating that there would be some people who practiced witchcraft and other forms of the occult who would try and take Sarah Palin down through certain rituals or curses or other techniques that witches have and try to destroy her through those things. And I think Thomas was praying a shield of protection around Sarah so that she would not be affected by them.”
Tags: history, Palin on Paul Revere, Sarah Palin
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Tags: Arizona, Bristol, Bristol Palin, Bubonic plague, republican, Sarah Palin, Scottsdale, Scottsdale Arizona, Wizard of Oz
I’m not kidding about the first two P’s in the title of this post. We have those. Some rodents here have been found to be infested with fleas carrying bubonic plague and some humans have contracted the disease. If I had to choose between risking the plague or Palin, I’d have to go with the plague.
Her daughter, Bristol, has a five bedroom house (the minimum needed for any young, single mother of one) in Scottsdale, an expensive, upscale suburb of Phoenix. I assume Sarah bought the house in order to begin establishing residency. It is my sincere hope that, coming from a cold climate, Arizona’s sweltering temperatures will prove too much for her and she will either high-tail it back to cold country or that the heat will cause her to melt , like the witch in Wizard of Oz. Again, if I had to choose, I’d pick melting.
- Sarah Palin For Arizona Senate? (alan.com)
- Sarah and Bristol Palin apply for trademarks (htlaroundup.wordpress.com)
- Rats and Plague, from a 1911 issue of Scientific American (scientificamerican.com)
- Sarah Palin’s melting! What a world, what a world… (americablog.com)
Tags: Cindy McCain, foreign policy experience, Sarah Palin
Add Cindy McCain to the Intellectually Challenged List. Thanks to Within Reason for the following video.
This isn’t new, we’ve all heard this before. Based on this logic I’m qualified for any number of high ranking government positions. I’ve been a freelancer for a long time which means I have no “marketable” skills which would qualify me for the presidency.
- I drive a car, so I could be head of transportation.
- I’ve flown in a plane, so make me head of the FAA.
- I’ve been to the doctor a few times, I could be surgeon general.
- I’m good at digging up information – head of the CIA or the FBI?
- I live closer to Mexico than Palin does to Russia which means my foreign policy experience trumps hers.
I’m sure if I thought about it I could come up with a much longer list of qualifications that make me suited to hold a high office. If you have similar qualifications, feel free to list them here and I’ll forward them to both the McCain and Obama campaigns.
Tags: Caribou Barbie, John McCain, Keating five, Sarah Palin
Tags: mean, Palin a racist, racism, ruthless, Sarah Palin
Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean”
September 5, 2008
by Charley James –
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”
This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.
“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.
Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”
Racial and ethnic slurs may be “just Alaska” and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.
Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N’-Fetch-It, “darkie musical” swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colourful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article. the rest of the story