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	<title>Comments on: Mother Teresa an Agnostic &#8211; Atheist?  Can She Still Be Sainted?</title>
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		<title>By: Mother Theresa had difficulty believing in God during the last 40 years of her life. &#171; The Raven talks&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://honjii.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/mother-teresa-an-agnostic-atheist-can-she-still-be-sainted/#comment-8735</link>
		<dc:creator>Mother Theresa had difficulty believing in God during the last 40 years of her life. &#171; The Raven talks&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Pawan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Pawan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah... come on. Cut the crap. Whoever said an Atheist or Agnost cant be a good person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230; come on. Cut the crap. Whoever said an Atheist or Agnost cant be a good person?</p>
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		<title>By: Arkaro</title>
		<link>http://honjii.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/mother-teresa-an-agnostic-atheist-can-she-still-be-sainted/#comment-8357</link>
		<dc:creator>Arkaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An atheist does not claim to know that there is no god.. why do so many people tend to screw this up? The most famous atheists admit to the possibility, albeit an extremely low probability, that god could exist. Everyone, whether they claim to know or not, is agnostic... which is why I abhor the term. It is a meaningless label. Do you believe in god? Yes: theist. No: atheist. Answering with &quot;I can&#039;t know for sure&quot; doesn&#039;t answer the question of your state of belief.

And finally.. it does seem to be quite common for extremely religious people to enter a final &quot;stage of disbelief&quot; where they continue on with their life&#039;s work despite themselves. Enter &lt;a href=&quot;http://newhumanist.org.uk/1425&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jean Meslier&lt;/a&gt;. 

Does anyone else need further evidence of the horrible trap that is religion? To rob good-meaning individuals of ACTUALLY helping us solve our problems instead of perpetuating the divinity of suffering. Teresa fought bitterly with her demons: the wrongful acts demanded by her religion. Despite all that she&#039;s done, it seems as though she really was a caring atheist after all cruelly pinned by her false beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An atheist does not claim to know that there is no god.. why do so many people tend to screw this up? The most famous atheists admit to the possibility, albeit an extremely low probability, that god could exist. Everyone, whether they claim to know or not, is agnostic&#8230; which is why I abhor the term. It is a meaningless label. Do you believe in god? Yes: theist. No: atheist. Answering with &#8220;I can&#8217;t know for sure&#8221; doesn&#8217;t answer the question of your state of belief.</p>
<p>And finally.. it does seem to be quite common for extremely religious people to enter a final &#8220;stage of disbelief&#8221; where they continue on with their life&#8217;s work despite themselves. Enter <a href="http://newhumanist.org.uk/1425" rel="nofollow">Jean Meslier</a>. </p>
<p>Does anyone else need further evidence of the horrible trap that is religion? To rob good-meaning individuals of ACTUALLY helping us solve our problems instead of perpetuating the divinity of suffering. Teresa fought bitterly with her demons: the wrongful acts demanded by her religion. Despite all that she&#8217;s done, it seems as though she really was a caring atheist after all cruelly pinned by her false beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monique,

Why the surprise?  People that strive for truth, for &#039;real answers&#039;, the highest goals often have only their goals to define success and satisfaction.  The true faith of a person like Mother Teresa is not a comfort, but a goad, a vast and empty doubt. At the same time her faith defined her life, her values, and her path through life, she denied herself many worldly choices and even spiritual comforts.  At the same time she was driven to help the poor, it had to be extremely frustrating to see the Church and the media play up her role - instead of digging in and solving the issues causing the pain she was intent to reduce.  Was her work really useful in helping the poor, or was the real accomplishment of her life to be a PR bonanza for the Church?  Which did God rejoice in?  Either?  The Church is highly regimented, and the Catholic church especially proclaims to speak with the words of God, the Pope participates with the infallibility of God.  So why was the Church playing her actions to rebuild Church image, and not to keep people fed and cared for?

Think of 40 years of doubt as a blessing.  It took until then to learn enough of the Church, the world, people, and herself to arrive at doubt.  After she developed the doubt I imagine the search for answers brought her ever closer to understanding, with a richness of reward for spirit and crushing despair difficult to imagine.

At least, that is how I read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monique,</p>
<p>Why the surprise?  People that strive for truth, for &#8216;real answers&#8217;, the highest goals often have only their goals to define success and satisfaction.  The true faith of a person like Mother Teresa is not a comfort, but a goad, a vast and empty doubt. At the same time her faith defined her life, her values, and her path through life, she denied herself many worldly choices and even spiritual comforts.  At the same time she was driven to help the poor, it had to be extremely frustrating to see the Church and the media play up her role &#8211; instead of digging in and solving the issues causing the pain she was intent to reduce.  Was her work really useful in helping the poor, or was the real accomplishment of her life to be a PR bonanza for the Church?  Which did God rejoice in?  Either?  The Church is highly regimented, and the Catholic church especially proclaims to speak with the words of God, the Pope participates with the infallibility of God.  So why was the Church playing her actions to rebuild Church image, and not to keep people fed and cared for?</p>
<p>Think of 40 years of doubt as a blessing.  It took until then to learn enough of the Church, the world, people, and herself to arrive at doubt.  After she developed the doubt I imagine the search for answers brought her ever closer to understanding, with a richness of reward for spirit and crushing despair difficult to imagine.</p>
<p>At least, that is how I read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was certainly not an atheist, which is a person who dose firmly know there is no god.
Agnostic yes, that is a person whom does not know or can&#039;t decide if they believe god exists, but Mother Teresa was leaning towards believing if agnostic anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was certainly not an atheist, which is a person who dose firmly know there is no god.<br />
Agnostic yes, that is a person whom does not know or can&#8217;t decide if they believe god exists, but Mother Teresa was leaning towards believing if agnostic anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://honjii.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/mother-teresa-an-agnostic-atheist-can-she-still-be-sainted/#comment-7975</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, You&#039;re kidding right?  Bad days?  Did you read the article, try bad 40 YEARS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, You&#8217;re kidding right?  Bad days?  Did you read the article, try bad 40 YEARS!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K</title>
		<link>http://honjii.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/mother-teresa-an-agnostic-atheist-can-she-still-be-sainted/#comment-7962</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute.  Everyone has doubts and bad days.

Blessed be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute.  Everyone has doubts and bad days.</p>
<p>Blessed be.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith can not live without doubt.  Without doubt, there is no need for faith.  Her great faith was exemplified by her actions, and just as truly, what saw there lead to great doubt.  
The simple mind does not grasp ambiguity, and the wise mind knows that it can not be grasped.
The fact of Good action in the face of desparation, a desparation that only an idiot could face without dout, is evidence that she acted on the basis of a higher good.  A greater good is not material.  Some may call that God, some may not.  But it is something other than reaching out for base or even community needs.  For many times, the community in which she worked did not express a need, but exibited a need through the eyes of one with the willingness to percieve.  That perception is something she brought, not something that was given in the situation.  Again, was that God?  To those touched by her grace, I&#039;d be willing to bet it was God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith can not live without doubt.  Without doubt, there is no need for faith.  Her great faith was exemplified by her actions, and just as truly, what saw there lead to great doubt.<br />
The simple mind does not grasp ambiguity, and the wise mind knows that it can not be grasped.<br />
The fact of Good action in the face of desparation, a desparation that only an idiot could face without dout, is evidence that she acted on the basis of a higher good.  A greater good is not material.  Some may call that God, some may not.  But it is something other than reaching out for base or even community needs.  For many times, the community in which she worked did not express a need, but exibited a need through the eyes of one with the willingness to percieve.  That perception is something she brought, not something that was given in the situation.  Again, was that God?  To those touched by her grace, I&#8217;d be willing to bet it was God.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl and Anastasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl and Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see what she saw how can you believe in the concept of &quot;good&quot; God they are trying to sell you?
That vindictive, egocentric, cruel being described in the Old Testament and named God there, yes, that jerk would like watching the poor suffer!
Makes her an even better person in our view if she did not believe in supernatural beings....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see what she saw how can you believe in the concept of &#8220;good&#8221; God they are trying to sell you?<br />
That vindictive, egocentric, cruel being described in the Old Testament and named God there, yes, that jerk would like watching the poor suffer!<br />
Makes her an even better person in our view if she did not believe in supernatural beings&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dehermitage</title>
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		<dc:creator>dehermitage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a level in spirituality where unless you really understand it it can become quite confusing, I have been told this level is the third level, in it sits the people considered super saints,, Life is much easier with out the torments of belief.. ah to just warm a pew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a level in spirituality where unless you really understand it it can become quite confusing, I have been told this level is the third level, in it sits the people considered super saints,, Life is much easier with out the torments of belief.. ah to just warm a pew.</p>
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